Saturday 16 April 2016

What is beauty: personal opinion vs society's standards

Hello everyone. Time for me to answer a funny question. Well, I don't think the topic is that funny to be honest but the fact that the person asking it is actually embarrassed - well, I find that funny because I am more than happy to talk about this as I am so open minded and have a clear opinion on the issue. So, here is Choaniki's "burning question":

LIFT, there is a burning question i always wondered to myself. Whenever a female friend or colleague ask my opinions on a guy's looks i always tell them that as a heterosexual guy myself i have no comment on their looks. I'm simply not interested firstly and then again i don't feel i'm qualified to appraise their looks as i don't know what constitutes attractive features for guys. As a homosexual i know you are very qualified to appraise a guys looks but do you think you can give an honest appraisal on females looks as well considering you are not attracted to them? Feel free to not answer this if you feel it is too controversial.
The beautiful ladies from K-pop group T-ara: I adore T-ara!

I don't think this is controversial at all. I think for the record, I must clarify that in the past, I have gone out with women before, but that felt like a long time ago especially now that I've turned 40 and these days I am mostly attracted to men. I do feel that Choaniki is afraid of being accused of being gay should he even have an opinion on male beauty - I know him, he's a married heterosexual man, so I don't think he should default to this 'no comment' stance. I suppose it is his prerogative to say that he doesn't feel qualified enough to appraise their looks - but how do I appraise female beauty then, as a gay man who is not attracted to the female form then?

Well you guys do know that I have done plenty of acting as well as some modeling over the years - I have spent years in an industry which clearly favours good looking people. In fact as an Asian guy in the West, I have been able to get a lot of work based on the fact that many casting directors are looking to create a multi-ethnic, diverse look for their marketing/advertising campaigns and I have far less competition than say a white, female, blonde model in her early 20s trying to make it in the industry. I have actually worked alongside many extremely beautiful female models over the years - that is probably the kind of position that most straight men would be quite jealous of. So as a result of my extensive experience in this industry, I have a pretty good idea of what kind of female models make it in the industry and what kind of female models have far less of a chance of getting paid work. It is a rather brutal industry indeed. 
I understand how the modeling industry works.

Thus my opinion of what constitutes as female beauty is pretty much shaped by what is in demand by the media industry - I suppose it it hard of differentiate what is my personal opinion and what is the industry's opinion as the two have become so intertwined that I can't even begin to pick the two apart. But let me give you an example that shows you how my opinion is shaped by how the industry works: I love my coffee and I have a very deep understanding of what makes a good cup of coffee. Indeed, you can walk into a big supermarket and realize that there's a lot of different kinds of coffees out there - from the budget range to the expensive, luxury range. I could write for ages as to why some coffees are super cheap whilst you pay a ludicrous amount of coffee for say, Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee. But when enough people subscribe to the same standards of taste and quality, then it means that certain kinds of coffee will fetch a much higher price on the market than others. My criteria for selecting the kind of coffee I drink and enjoy pretty much conforms with the industry standards. I'm not reinventing the wheel here, I am merely following the same rules as everyone else about what makes a good cup of coffee.

The same can be said about any consumer product out there in the market: from mobile phones to chocolates to fashion to cars to shoes to televisions. The free market shapes a sense of consensus that determines what we like and are willing to pay more for and thus placing more value on some things than others. In the world of modeling and acting, that is very much the case as it is one industry which unashamedly judges people by their looks and are quite happy to place numerical value on a man or a woman's looks. But you may turn around and say to me, "Alex, if you're talking about models doing photo shoots for fashion magazines or advertisement campaigns, then fair enough - but what about ordinary folks who have no intention to get paid for their looks or earn money that way. Are you subjecting them to the same standards as supermodels and famous actors? Come on, is that really fair?" Well the answer is yes I am subjecting them to the same standards because there isn't really another set of rules or standards for me to use.
Let me give you a story I'm sure you can relate to: last year, I was invited to dinner at my friend Jeff's house and his wife cooked an amazing dinner. I commented that the awesome food was restaurant quality and she could be a restaurant chef. She blushed at the compliment and said something like, "oh no, I am a simple housewife, I just cook for my family." You see, it doesn't matter whether or not she was trying to get paid for her skills as a chef, I measured the quality of her cooking against what I would expect of a very fine restaurant in London and felt that it was of similarly high quality. I used a benchmark that was commercial, one that enabled people to put a numerical value on it - how much is this meal worth? What would you pay for a meal like that? Is it what you would expect of a Michelin-star restaurant or a simple meal at a greasy spoon cafe? Again, I was subjecting her to commercial standards to evaluate her cooking because I really didn't have any other standards to evaluate the quality of her fine cooking.

So when it comes to me evaluating the looks of a woman - I am not basing it on whether or not I am physically attracted to this woman or not, but rather, simply defaulting to industry standards of what is considered beautiful by the media. I know what you're going to say - everyone's taste in beauty varies, it is hard to agree on what is 'beauty' per se as it may vary from country to country, culture to culture. Whilst that may be true, we live in the age of advertising, where we are bombarded by images of beautiful people endorsing everything from perfumes to cars to mobile phones to airlines. Our perceptions of what is attractive, trendy, desirable and highly valued is very much shaped by these sleek advertising campaigns. The advertising industry is worth billions - big brand names are willing to pour millions into each advertising campaign, using beautiful celebrities because they have the power to persuade us to use their product and not their rivals'. Thus in this context, we have to accept that yes, there is an 'industry standard' as to what is considered beautiful and attractive, even if we still do have the capacity to express our individual preferences.
Need I state the obvious? People who lack the good looks are not going to be make a living this way - only those who have the kind of looks that have a wide enough appeal can do so. Are your looks so special and amazing that people are willing to pay you good money just to your looks and not your brains? Indeed, people who are that beautiful are extremely lucky for they can make a lot of money very easily - I am so jealous of people like that. Of course, not every beautiful woman is interested in going down this route of course: my good friend Melinda is extremely beautiful in my opinion and yes she could be a model or actress if she wants to. But she is also highly intelligent and prefers to use her brains to make a living instead - my opinion that Melinda is beautiful is not based on a personal desire to have sex with her, rather, I am making a commercial evaluation of her physical appearance and trying to decide if she can use her looks to make a living such as by being a model, actress or even an escort.

However, being beautiful does go further than just being able to work as a model or an escort. Life does reward people who are beautiful whilst sometimes penalizing people who are, well, ugly. Sorry I have to be blunt. I remember some years back, when I was working in this company - there were two women in the same department: let's call them Amy and Betty. Amy was tall and very attractive, whilst Betty was short, fat and wore glasses. Amy could get away with all kinds of mistakes at work that Betty could never - it wasn't obvious that the boss was trying to flirt with Amy, but he was prepared to be more lenient with her. Amy was always invited out for social occasions whilst it was assumed that Betty had to rush home "to feed her cats" - I have a feeling that Betty invented that as a convenient excuse because it was highly unlikely that the other colleagues would have asked her out. So it was a double edged sword: beautiful people like Amy are rewarded for simply looking fine, whilst unattractive people like Betty are 'punished' for simply not conforming to society's narrowly defined notion of beauty. I've seen this happen a lot in sales where you need personality and charm to close a sales and I can see why some people do better in face-to-face sales than others. 
Being attractive makes a difference in the world of business.

So in the case of Amy and Betty, I don't need to be physically attracted (or repulsed) by either of them in order to have an opinion about whether or not they are beautiful or not. Indeed, even if I didn't have a strong opinion either way, I would be able to default to the general consensus of the colleagues in the office who would be able to tell me that Amy was indeed beautiful and Betty was unattractive. I am very interested to find out how the way they are perceived by others affects the way they are treated by others. In turn, I then ask the questions: so how am I perceived by others then? What do they think about me? How do their perceptions of me affect the way they treat me? What are their notions of beauty and charm and how do I score in terms of their standards? What can I do to improve the way I am being treated in this group? Sure there are people who remain painfully oblivious to the way others perceive them, but you'll be a fool to ignore that in life. You can learn a lot by observing the way others treat each other. 

So can a straight man make a similar evaluation on the looks of another man in the same way? Well yes he can, as long as he has a good enough understanding of what others around him in society perceive as beautiful and what they value in terms of male beauty. After all, don't straight men want to appear attractive to others (at least to the women in their lives)? So here comes to punchline (drum roll please): if you understand what society values in terms of what makes a man attractive, then you will be able to apply that to yourself. At times like these, society's opinions and standards matter far more than yours.  If you simply 'bo-chup' how you are being perceived, then chances are, you are making little or no effort to look good for others and you will end up like Betty. That is hardly an enviable position to be in. After all, we live and work in a community, we're not living in isolation: everyday, we interact with friends and colleagues and we send out messages about ourselves to them all the time, particularly in the age of social media. What kind of message do you want to send out to them? And do you actually care what they think about you?
Does your opinion matter more than society's  standards?

Therefore Choaniki, the next time someone asks you for your opinion on whether or not a man is attractive - don't panic and scream, "I am not gay! I don't look at men! I don't have an opinion!" Relax, simply treat it as a hypothetical question about whether this man is good looking enough to become a model or an actor. If this guy had been in your class at school, would he be the one who would get many dates or would he be the geek who is the social outcast? If he was your colleague at work, would he be more like Amy or Betty? You see, it is very easy to answer the question this way by placing this man in question in the wider social context. After all, that insight into society's perception of beauty is probably far more interesting than your personal opinion. Likewise, my buddy Tom brought some homemade brownies to the gym the other day - they were incredibly good. If I simply said, "I love your brownies!" That's me offering a personal opinion. If I said something like, "if you opened up a shop a sold these brownies, everybody would want to buy your brownies as these are so much better than the ones available at the local supermarket." That goes way beyond offering a personal opinion - I was setting it in the local context, offering insight into the current situation.

So there you go, that's my take on this issue. I think it is important to be humble when asked our opinion on any topic - perhaps the other party may benefit more from an overview of the social context and background information about the topic rather than our personal opinion per se. That's what I try to do in my blog: I try not to pontificate on the issues, rather I try to explain the issue to my readers by piecing together different aspects of the issues into a coherent argument. What do you think? Do you like my approach to explaining the issue? Have you any other suggestions? What does beauty mean to you? Please let me know what you think, leave a comment below. Thanks for reading. 

16 comments:

  1. If you want to talk about society's expectations then know that it is a social norm that females looking at other females and appreciating (or slandering) their looks is totally acceptable while the reverse is not true for males.

    Many in society find lesbians acceptable (or even "hot") while the concept of gays repulse so many especially the religious fundamentalists.

    Could this also be the reason then why gay sex is still criminalised in Singapore while lesbians sex is not?

    The Asian society has some pretty narrow, even shallow definition of attractive people. For males it is 高富帅 and for females it is 白富美. So if you are a guy you need to be tall, handsome and rich while you don't need to be tall just fair-skinned, beautiful and rich. As to what constitutes handsome or beautiful that could take up one full page essay.

    For example Asian society is obsessed with females having stick thin figures and the almond-shaped face (no thanks to Korean cultural exports). I actually don't find that attractive since it reminds me of a child. I am more attracted to a fit looking body with a square-shaped face. Which i think is also the more Western definition of beauty in females.

    For guys we are set up from birth to fail. The Asian and Western definition of attractiveness usually feature a tall, buff-bodied guy with prominent facial features (aka Caucasian looking). Since by genetics most of the Asian guys look the exact opposite is it any wonder that they are they least desirable ethnic group in all dating sites? I know Taiwan and Korea are trying to export a pretty boy (美男) look but at the end of the day human biology plays a very strong role in attractiveness. Put a pretty boy and a tall, tough looking guy together and more often than not the female would choose the tough guy. After all you can't culturally influence out millions of years of human evolution. Females sticking to the alpha male have been evolutionary beneficial to them.

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    1. Wrong. Different woman have different tastes. I don't really like bluff men because they look scary and often, they're very self absorbed.

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    2. Hi Choaniki,

      Well, the punchline of my piece is simple: the criteria which makes you attractive (or not) is the same for other males. So unless you totally bo-chup how attractive (or otherwise) you look to the world, then you should be at least able to form some kind of opinion (however objective) about the attractiveness of another man, by simply applying the same criteria. The only possibility then, is for you to say, I'm married, I'm off the market, I no longer have any need to appeal to the public, so I can forget about trying to be attractive to anyone.

      As for S377A (the law criminalizing gay sex), you're wrong. Gay sex was illegal at the time Singapore was granted independence, before that, Singapore had the same laws as the UK (as a colony). The UK only decriminalized gay sex in 1967, despite its late start, has gone on to develop one of the world's most progressive set of gay rights. So if Singapore was granted independence in 1967, this would not have been an issue at all. Hong Kong was returned to China in 1997, so until then it was a de facto British colony and in HK, gay sex was decriminalized way before the handover and HK has a really good gay rights record by Asian standards (I'm surprised Beijing puts up with it but hey, good for HK). Note that other countries with non-British imperial rulers like Indonesia (Dutch), Vietnam (French) and Philippines (Spanish/US) have more progressive gay rights laws than Singapore (although Indonesia has slipped the other way in recent years due to radical Islam). But the bottom line is that S377A is left over as a British colonial legacy because back then, the British were homophobic (we're talking pre-1967 days) and thus that was left behind on the law books of Singapore. Singapore still uses the British system when it comes to the law except it's the British system of 1967, not 2016. Thank goodness the UK has come a long way when it comes to gay rights in this day and age, it would have been terrible living as a gay man in the UK prior to the 1970s. Change in Singapore is very slow, especially when it comes to the getting rid of crap, old, stupid colonial laws that even the Brits have gotten rid of in 1967. So that's a history lesson for you - it has got nothing to do with people finding lesbians hot.

      I am not sure if the stereotype you wrote about bitchy women talking about the looks of others - for me, it is more a question of grooming and fashion: I am unashamedly vain and I like the idea of looking attractive to everyone - but most of all, I want to like what I see when I look into the mirror. Especially since I have turned 40, continuing to be able to look attractive (rather than just middle aged, or plain old) is an issue that I have to contend with whether I like it or not - and I find myself looking into things like how I can improve my diet to be more healthy.

      As for what is society's notion of beauty - in Singapore, you have a mix of Asian and Western influences; you know more about that than me, as I have not lived there for 20 years.

      As for being attractive, I go beyond height and looks - I look at grooming and presentation/fashion. But that's my personal preference.

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  2. I am a woman, and I have no qualms giving my opinions about a woman's beauty or lack thereof. My husband has no problems telling me if a man or woman is attractive or not.
    As for societal standards of beauty, I often tend to veer the other way. For instance, I find Angelina Jolie highly overrated and so is Julia Roberts. They are certainly attractive but overrated nonetheless. Meryl Streep, however, exudes beauty in any role or costume.
    Beauty to me is a blank canvas. You start with basic good looks but you ply on wit, good taste, good grooming, intelligence, and personality, and I will find you attractive. I think it is highly subjective.

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    1. I agree with you Di - esp about the good taste, good grooming intelligence and personality. It's more than just looking at a photograph and saying, that person looks nice. I think it is about having charm and that goes beyond looks. Can you ooze charm when you meet people?

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    2. Haha. I'd like to think so. I am very selective who I am charming for. Sometimes I am a real grouch. I have one of those faces that looks bitchy if I don't smile.

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  3. I believe Betty have an issue with personality rather than looks. I not a very pretty person but I still get invitations to go out for lunch and dinner. Ugly is just an excuse - do you not be friends with someone just because they are ugly?

    On romantic terms, yes, looks matter. On friendships? Not at all. Unless Betty is in a 99% male workplace.

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    1. I think it's a double edged sword and it is hard to pull the two issues apart when they are so intertwined. Yes Betty has an introverted personality "I must rush home to feed my cats". She lacks the confidence to shine in a social situation, she probably feels inferior to Amy when it the company of others. I don't even think she makes any effort when it comes to fashion/grooming - zero make up, unkempt hair, sometimes wearing the same clothes 2 days in a row. Whereas Amy always makes an effort to look good - come to think of it, Amy isn't some kind of supermodel, just a woman who makes a genuine effort to look good when she comes to work: nice clothes, hair and make up done up and always smiling, being polite to everyone. Whereas Betty has this snarl, this "what do you want, I am very busy, go bother Amy instead and leave me the hell alone" attitude when you go near her in the office.

      As for me, hmmm. Whilst I do not discriminate against ugly people, I would discriminate against people who do not make an effort to be nice to others. There are extroverted people who will go out of their way to come to me, say hello, ask me how I am and I like that - when they take an interest in me. Whilst there are those that keep to themselves and I'm like, fine, have it your way, I won't disturb you! (Like Betty).

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  4. @LIFT, I got real angry after reading this article from the States Times. I think you should tear the "writer" (possibly ghostwriter) a new ahole since almost everything is wrong with it. Really stinks of propaganda from the powers that be.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/a-singaporeans-journey-west-and-back-home

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    1. Thanks for the link - I will indeed rise to the challenge and write a reply to that. I spent much longer in the gym today than expected: I am enjoying the fact that at 40, I can still doing gymnastics like a teenager.

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    2. http://limpehft.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/my-response-to-st-article-about.html

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  5. Hi LIFT! This is such an interesting topic Ive tons to say about it, being often criticised as bochup (but I think theres nothing wrong with me).
    Since you are a professional in the entertainment lines of acting, dancing, music and fashion, Id like to ask your opinion about actresses claiming ageism and sexism in Hollywood.
    Do you agree its more important for women to have looks, youth & health (in the form of zero body fat) in our society, than for men?
    Looking for excuses to continue being bochup about my looks since Im male. Thanks:)

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    1. I think it depends - there's definitely an element of 'body fascism' in the media, ie. if you don't conform to a certain notion of beauty, you don't get to go in front of the camera as people want to be entertained by seeing beautiful people on screen, not ugly ones. I was once told point-blank that I was too ugly for Chinese TV since I wasn't young and cute - which is why when I did my China TV debut last year, I was so pleased as it does that either a) I'm so brilliant that my acting/Mandarin skills compensate for my lack of beauty or b) I'm not that ugly after all. LOL.

      But really, it depends on what you wanna do. If you were trying to make in in Chinese/Korean/Japanese media, then looks are very important. If you're working with computers, then you can be as bo chup as you want about your looks.

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    2. There is certainly more pressure on women to look good and maintain their looks. However, I think men ought to be well-groomed to their best ability regardless of job demands. I am not talking about buying the latest in fashion. I am talking about talking care of your skin, having a good hair cut, keeping fit and healthy. By fit, I don't mean working out at the gym to look buffed. If you are huffing and puffing when you walk up the stairs, you're in trouble. Keep yourself in good health, have good hygiene, and dress with some dignity at least, even if it's jeans and runners.

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    3. Well if the story of Alibaba's CEO - Jack Ma has any hint of truth in it I feel that looks matter a lot for men as well. Heck 30 percent of the Fortune 500 CEOs are 6 foot 2 and above and I'm willing to bet most of them wear good well fitting suits.

      If all you want to do is to deal only with computers then sure, your grooming won't matter. But I reckon if you want to move up the value chain (eg: anything beyond a department head) grooming would start to matter more and more. Zuckerberg, Larry Page and Sergey Brin dress very casually but I'm willing to bet that the executives under them don't dress like that. Also while they may not have massive biceps and puffed out chests they still look pretty athletic. Being overweight or too skinny for male leaders is still a big no no.

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    4. I think it also depends on whom you're dealing with - if you have to face clients, business partners, customers, the press/media etc - then you're under obligation to present a good impression of your company.

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